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Marvel Movie Marathon: Avengers Assemble: I love this movie.

I would have loved writing this review more if my browser hadn't eaten it when it was halfway written, but I'll try to recreate it with as much enthusiasm as the first go had. :p

The truth is I was really not confident about Avengers. I've watched a lot of Joss Whedon's stuff, but I'd never drunk the Kool-Aid, and I was grimly afraid we were going to end up with Magic Widow the Superhero Slayer for this movie. We didn't, and I'm still both astonished and grateful. I read a while after the film came out that Joss (or someone with enough influence over him) had looked at the early cut and thought "this movie has too much Joss in it" and subsequently left 20 minutes or so on the cutting room floor. If that's the case, it's a rare instance where I'll doff my hat to Joss Whedon, because normally ego would override that kind of decision, and it was to the betterment of the film that it did not.

I don't love it just because it's funny, although it is (Cap paying up the $10 to Fury, and his delighted, "I understood that reference!"; Tony poking incessantly at Bruce; Loki's snarky, "I'm listening!" and his baffled, "This usually works..."; Nat's irritation at her interrogation being interrupted--"I not give...*everything*..?!"; Coulson's utterly mortifying, "I watched you while you were sleeping."; and the unbeatable Harry Dean Stanton line, "Then, son...you got a *condition*."). And it's not just the delight of seeing a long build-up pay off in the "meet, fight, bond, battle" arc that happens again and again in the comics, although the joy of watching Cap and Tony and Thor throw down in the forest never gets old.

I think what ultimately makes it work for me so well are the moments of poignancy and connection. I think it's in Avengers where we start to understand how deeply Thor loves Loki, and how agonizing it is for him to have his brother be the bad guy. Natasha and Clint's relationship, despite being given literally no screen time before Clint is compromised, is remarkably well wrought. And there's Coulson's story, of course, which didn't rip my heart out THIS time (although I do desperately want to know if his ex-wife in the Framework was The Cellist), but that's probably the first time it didn't hit me viscerally. And his last line is a great one. Tony, trying to call Pepper, while Pepper is watching the TV to see what happens to him. There are a lot of really great emotional beats in this movie.

But of course if there's a single moment that really lifts the whole film, it's the old man rising to face down Loki. "There are always men like you." And it's because that moment isn't about superheroes and impossible fantasy. It's simple human courage, doing the right thing against insurmountable odds. He doesn't know Cap is going to fall out of the sky and save him. He just knows he's not going to kneel to a monster. And that's the moment that seizes me by the throat, in Avengers.

Anyway, yeah, I could go through it on a line by line basis and complain that the beginning is a little slow, maybe, or that we could really do with some more women, thanks, but the guts of the matter are that I think Avengers works better than almost every other movie in the MCU. It remains in my top five, and I'm really pleased to have watched it again.

Date: 2018-03-21 08:02 pm (UTC)
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I agree completely! This is the movie in the franchise I re-watch (and makes me watch the others hoping they will be as good). My favorite is Hulk beating Loki into the ground and walking away with the comment, "PUNY god!", and the very tiny groan Loki gives as he does.

ETA: I think the other thing that delighted me about this movie is that everyone in it is SMART, not just muscle bound heroes. I love Clint's comment to Tony about the attackers not being able to corner.
Edited Date: 2018-03-21 08:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-03-22 04:20 am (UTC)
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I'm in total agreement.

Looking back at Avengers, I feel like Joss brought a certain flavor of comedic timing that works extremely well in comic book adaptations, where they're trying to shed the Batman (60s and even the 89 Batman which is campy but covers it with dark humor) campiness while still retaining the soul of it. If there's any one skill he brought to these things, it's that comedic timing.

And you can see that Marvel bought into that lesson and has been adapting it for every future film, working it, exploring where its limits are, and keeping things light and fun even when the subject matter is deadly serious.

I think it's taken Marvel Studios awhile to hit the formula, but the last few movies have really worked, even as they make a point to make each movie different enough to stand on its own they almost all have that same comedic flavor that Joss brought to the fore in Avengers.

I think lately they've finally out-Jossed Joss.

Date: 2018-03-30 11:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marjorie73
Totally agree. Including the 'There are always men like you' scene.

I also have a very soft spot for Captain America and his line "There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."

And since to day is a bank holiday and it is raining outside, I may have to have an Avengers re-watch this afternoon...

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